Large Wing and Sticker Condition Grading Table
2) How can I tell the difference in a large or small peg rudder or fin? 3) I heard you only sell Rudders and Tailfins as matched sets. Will you sell either separately? 4) Can I see an example of LARGE JET WING sticker conditions grades?
First the Definitions:
RUDDER: The VERTICAL or DORSAL fin that controls the Left and Right orientation of the aircraft. ALL THREE JET'S RUDDERS HAVE DECALS. TAIL FIN: Sometimes called the tail WING. Controls the Up and DOWN orientation of the aircraft. Only THRUST tail wing/rudder has stickers.
These definitions are by HASBRO the maker of the toys. If you do not used the proper terms for the parts, I will NOT be responsible for you getting the wrong piece.
Large and Small Peg : Sometime in 1984 or 1985 Hasbro changed the design of the Tailfins and Rudders of their fist issued Seeker Jets ( TC, SS, & SW). These fins are NOT interchangeable with the earlier issues and will damage or be damaged if forced together. Some ways to identify the difference in these parts are listed further down this page.
The REVISED POLICY: (5/9/2001) Robot Monster Toys WILL now sell Jet Rudders and Tailfins SEPARATELY as long as the customer assumes full responsibility for ordering the correct part and uses the correct part name (as defined by HASBRO) when ordering.
Reason Why Policy was revised: Because of the confusion and increase amount of returns as the result of collectors not being able to identify if they need a Large or Small hole Rudder or a Large or Small peg Tailfin, Robot Monster Toys stopped selling Rudders and Tailfins for these three Jets SEPARATELY. Instead we sold them as matched set GUARANTEED to to fit. This became to confusing for many collectors trying to sell or trade to RMT, and our supply of these parts completely dried-up.
How to Tell A Large Peg Seeker Jet Tailfin from a SmallLarge Peg Tailfins have a cavity on the underside of the fin near the rear. The Small Peg Tailfin does not. See photo of fin underside.How to Tell A Large Peg Hole Seeker Jet Rudder from a Small
BASE MARK
This one is not as easy to show or even see. Both the rudders
in the photo below are SMALL peg hole Seeker Jet Rudders for Small Peg Tail
Fins. Small hole rudders for G1 Starscream, Thundercracker, and
Skywarp have a small mold mark indicated by the red arrows. The
Large hole rudders do NOT. This distinction has been the most accurate
so far. The Blue Starscream rudder above has a stress crack in the peg hole probably caused by some-one inserting a large peg tail fin. MOLD VENTS Additional photo provided by Ken Szemethy that the large hole rudders have 3 vent marks to the Small peg's two. I have already found this is not 100% reliable. MOLD NUMBER Another easy way I have found to tell apart MOST of the Large Peg Hole Rudders is they have a small mold number printed in the inside base. Known Rudder variations
If you are buying a Rudder to go with a Fin you already have, I recommend you send it in for a fitting.
FYI - VARIANTS FIST
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